Manduka Upanishad:~Atman is the highest Reality and its opposite: Note the word "and". Reality and illusion together make Brahman: nothing can be left out. +

Manduka Upanishad:~Atman is the highest Reality and its opposite: Note the word "and". Reality and illusion together make Brahman: nothing can be left out. Page 51.

Brahman must be realized in the waking state when all objects are present to consciousness; otherwise, it is nonsense. Page 65: v.10.

"Sleep does not exist in Turiya”: This emphatically disproves the mystic use of sleep as an analogy for Brahman. Page 69.

This means that objects do not disappear; they are there, and yet they are non-dual. Disillusionment is not the same as appearance. Page 74. v. 17:

The essential message of Manduka is that the whole world, whatever is seen, is only imagined. Points out that even though it is harder for them, women can attain Brahman just as men. Page 351

"From their notion": Everybody has their own imagination about facts and starts from that, instead of discarding their personal idea and looking at the facts. Page 333. V. 83:

"Soundless and of infinite sounds"; means both the waking and sleep worlds must be known, and both objects and non-objects must be understood before the truth of Brahman is realized. Page 96. v. 29:

Manduka shows how one opinion may be used to contradict another so that both may be thrown away. Opinions are not for philosophy; they are merely thoughts; they want the truth.

In deep sleep and anesthesia, you have non-duality but no Gnana. Therefore, there must be discrimination along with non-duality. Otherwise, sleeping dogs would be Gnanis. ~ (P.219)

Existence means existence in the sense of the Drik. When you reduce everything to consciousness, Drik, Gnana, or even Mind, giving up all imagination in truth, it is unborn. You see a man's body come and go, but that is not the same as seeing him come and go, which you can never do. P.300. V. 45.

Sage Goudpada's 3rd chapter is devoted to proving the existence of Atman to distinguish it from the changeable objects in this world, but in the final 4th chapter, P.33, verse 83, he discards that position and rejects even the idea of Atmanic existence. He then declares we may assert nothing about it. Not even existence or nonexistence, i.e., silence alone, is demanded by the truth. :~ Santthosh Kumaar